[Mailman-Users] Site Admin Password list change

[Kory Wheatley]

Hi All,

I would like to know if there's a way you could have another Site Admin
users that could authenticate into any Mailman list, and change the
Admin or Moderator password for that list? I know you have a Site Admin
password that can create and delete lists via web, but it doesn't allow
you to authenticate into existing lists. The only purpose for this
access would be to change the password for the Moderator/Admin for this
list, and not be able to change any of the other settings.

[Brad Knowles]

Post by Kory Wheatley
I would like to know if there's a way you could have another Site Admin
users that could authenticate into any Mailman list, and change the Admin
or Moderator password for that list?

There is one and only one Site Admin password, and it is only
created or modified via the command-line on the server where Mailman
is installed.

Post by Kory Wheatley
I know you have a Site Admin
password that can create and delete lists via web, but it doesn't allow
you to authenticate into existing lists.

Yes, it does. I do it all the time on many of the mailing lists
I'm on, where I'm also one of the admins for the list, and where I'm
also one of the site admins. As site admin, I use this feature
whenever I need to go into a list that I'm not subscribed to and look
at their archives, or their list configuration, etc....

Post by Kory Wheatley
The only purpose for this
access would be to change the password for the Moderator/Admin for this
list, and not be able to change any of the other settings.

See above. There is one and only one Site Admin password, and
there is no provision for splitting out parts of that functionality
to anyone else.


These kinds of questions should already have answers in the FAQ.
--
Brad Knowles, <***@stop.mail-abuse.org>

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

-- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania
Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755

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[Kory Wheatley]

Well, it doesn't work for me to authenticate to a list using the Admin
listcreator password. I can use the site Adminstrator password to get
into any list. I'm running Mailman 2.1.6. This type of feature for
different levels of access to a list might be a good feature in the
future for Mailman.

I do apologize if this was in the FAQ Wizard, I did a brief scan in
there and must have overlooked it.

Post by Brad Knowles

Post by Kory Wheatley
I would like to know if there's a way you could have another Site Admin
users that could authenticate into any Mailman list, and change the Admin
or Moderator password for that list?

There is one and only one Site Admin password, and it is only
created or modified via the command-line on the server where Mailman
is installed.

Post by Kory Wheatley
I know you have a Site Admin
password that can create and delete lists via web, but it doesn't allow
you to authenticate into existing lists.

Yes, it does. I do it all the time on many of the mailing lists
I'm on, where I'm also one of the admins for the list, and where I'm
also one of the site admins. As site admin, I use this feature
whenever I need to go into a list that I'm not subscribed to and look
at their archives, or their list configuration, etc....

Post by Kory Wheatley
The only purpose for this
access would be to change the password for the Moderator/Admin for this
list, and not be able to change any of the other settings.

See above. There is one and only one Site Admin password, and
there is no provision for splitting out parts of that functionality to
anyone else.
These kinds of questions should already have answers in the FAQ.

[Brad Knowles]

Post by Kory Wheatley
Well, it doesn't work for me to authenticate to a list using the Admin
listcreator password.

What do you mean by "Admin listcreator password"? That should be
the Site Admin password, and you should be able to use it to
authenticate to the admin page for any list on that system, and from
there go to the list archives or any other page requiring either user
or list admin authentication.

You may not be able to go directly to the list archives with the
Site Admin password, but it's easy enough to get to them through the
main admin page for the list.

Post by Kory Wheatley
I can use the site Adminstrator password to get
into any list.

Right, as described above.

Post by Kory Wheatley
I'm running Mailman 2.1.6. This type of feature for
different levels of access to a list might be a good feature in the
future for Mailman.

Feel free to go to the Mailman RFE page on SourceForge at
<http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=103&atid=350103> and file
your request there. Alternatively, if you can provide a patch (or
get someone else to write a suitable patch for you), you can upload
that via the Mailman Patches page on SourceForge at
<http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=103&atid=300103>, and this
issue will be much more likely to be addressed sooner rather than
later.
--
Brad Knowles, <***@stop.mail-abuse.org>

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little
temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

-- Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790), reply of the Pennsylvania
Assembly to the Governor, November 11, 1755

SAGE member since 1995. See <http://www.sage.org/> for more info.

[Mark Sapiro]

Post by Brad Knowles

Post by Kory Wheatley
Well, it doesn't work for me to authenticate to a list using the Admin
listcreator password.

What do you mean by "Admin listcreator password"? That should be
the Site Admin password ...

There are actually two (optional) site level passwords. The site admin
password that can be used for everything except an email Approved:
header and the list creator password that can be used to authorize the
web list create page.

If you want a site password that would allow changing list level
passwords only and not allow the other things the site admin password
allows, you'd have to implement it - it doesn't currently exist.